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Change : +8 The Hornet Archive is at ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos Archive Size : 3285M ==[Contents]=================================================================== Calendar Sites Top Downloads Uploads Articles Introduction................................Snowman Standards...................................GD Text Mode Demo Competition (TMDC)...........Sol Outdated Code, Modern Hardware..............Unreal Coven 1996 Information......................Red Haze Advertisement - The Kosmic Web Site.........Maelcum Closing ==[Calendar]=================================================================== Date Event Location Concact Points --------- ----------- --------- --------------------------------------------- 30 Aug 96 AntIQ Hungary aboy@ttk.jpte.hu www.jpte.hu/~aboy 30 Aug 96 Gardening Greece gmanol@physics.upatras.gr westnet.hol.gr/gardening96 * <-- YOU ARE HERE 30 Sep 96 Coven Australia redhaze@student.adelaide.edu.au student.adelaide.edu.au/~ed 04 Oct 96 Demobit Slovakia demobit@elf.stuba.sk internet.sk/demobit/english.htm 21 Mar 97 Mekka Germany amable@aol.com ==[Sites]====================================================================== Category Location Contact Points -------------- --------- ---------------------------------------------------- Hornet Archive USA ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos HA Mirrors Sweden ftp.luth.se/pub/msdos/demos S. Africa ftp.sun.ac.za/pub/msdos/demos USA (FL) ftp.uwp.edu/pub/msdos/demos USA (PA) ftp.co.iup.edu/code (from /demos/code) Other Archives Belgium hagar.arts.kuleuven.ac.be/demos Sweden ftp.arosnet.se/demo Spain ftp.siapi.es/blastersound/demos/incoming Finland ftp.fm.org Holland sdc.wtm.tudelft.nl/pub/music ==[Downloads]================================================================== Category Times File -------- -- ----- ----------------------------------------------------------- Demos 01 00181 /demos/1996/m/machines.a01 02 00179 /demos/1996/a/ai_strok.zip 03 00171 /demos/1996/m/machines.arj 04 00167 /demos/1996/m/machines.a02 05 00155 /demos/1996/c/ctststp1.zip 06 00151 /demos/1996/m/machifix.zip 07 00145 /demos/1996/c/ctststp2.zip 08 00130 /demos/1993/0-9/2ndreal1.lzh 09 00123 /demos/1993/0-9/2ndreal2.lzh 10 00121 /demos/1995/a/animate.zip Music 01 00455 /music/programs/players/m4w230sx.zip 02 00430 /music/programs/players/cp16.zip 03 00342 /music/programs/trackers/scrmt321.zip 04 00255 /music/programs/trackers/ft206.zip 05 00246 /music/programs/players/m4w230sl.zip 06 00215 /music/programs/players/cp17.zip 07 00132 /music/programs/players/play230b.zip 08 00118 /music/programs/trackers/it205.zip 09 00104 /music/programs/players/cp1666.zip 10 00075 /music/allmusic.zip Graphics 01 00017 /graphics/programs/fractal/dst_frac.zip 02 00015 /graphics/images/1996/c/chantal.zip 03 00014 /graphics/programs/convert/bmp2avi.zip 04 00013 /graphics/images/1996/i/impgunwo.zip 05 00013 /graphics/images/1996/a/airwar.zip 06 00012 /graphics/images/1996/v/vamp10.zip 07 00012 /graphics/images/1996/i/impwoman.zip 08 00012 /graphics/images/1996/b/bye_eden.zip 09 00012 /graphics/images/1996/b/babylona.zip 10 00011 /graphics/images/1996/a/abc_guar.zip Code 01 00031 /code_review/tutorial/dn114_3d.zip 02 00030 /code_review/graph/water/water.zip 03 00024 /code_review/tutorial/dn116_3d.zip 04 00020 /code_review/tutorial/kmagv3.zip 05 00020 /code_review/tutorial/fh-3dtut.zip 06 00020 /code_review/graph/tunnel/tunnel.zip 07 00020 /code_review/graph/rotation/fullr_1.zip 08 00019 /code_review/tutorial/kmagv2.zip 09 00019 /code_review/tutorial/basicdoc.arj 10 00018 /code_review/demosrc/sea_code.zip Incoming 01 00144 /incoming/music/programs/cpwss17f.zip 02 00138 /incoming/music/programs/cpitl17e.zip 03 00131 /incoming/music/programs/cpxml17d.zip 04 00105 /incoming/music/programs/cs2.zip 05 00087 /incoming/music/programs/readcda2.zip 06 00082 /incoming/demos/nil.zip 07 00081 /incoming/code/3ddemo.zip 08 00074 /incoming/music/programs/mixer112.zip 09 00064 /incoming/music/programs/mxmp15.zip 10 00062 /incoming/demos/pls_cntc.zip Total files downloaded : 60,769 Size of files downloaded : 23,874,950k ==[Uploads]==================================================================== All ratings are subjective. =---------------------------------------------------------------------(demos)-= /pub/demos/demos Size Rated Description 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Redfern /disks/1996/o/origin03.zip 293 ** Origin Disk #3 by Origin /disks/1996/p/ph-0196a.zip 1334 ***+ [1/2] pHluid #4 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0196b.zip 906 ***+ [2/2] pHluid #4 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0296a.zip 1152 *** [1/2] pHluid #5 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0296b.zip 1068 *** [2/2] pHluid #5 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0396a.zip 1375 ***+ [1/2] pHluid 03/1996 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0396b.zip 1176 ***+ [2/2] pHluid 03/1996 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0596a.zip 1105 *** [1/2] pHluid 05/1996 by Acid /disks/1996/p/ph-0596b.zip 1064 *** [2/2] pHluid 05/1996 by Acid /disks/1996/p/pn-chips.zip 41 ***+ Chips & Dips by Pinion /disks/1996/r/radiodst.zip 778 ** Radioactive Distortion by Neutron /disks/1996/r/rat_cat2.zip 836 **+ Obnoxious Affinity by Catspaw /disks/1996/r/reaction.zip 1016 *+ Reaction by Neutron /disks/1996/r/reso_mcp.zip 532 **+ Resolution '95 2 Hour Compo Pack /disks/1996/r/rpcarmgn.zip 1439 *+ Carmagnola by Red Power /disks/1996/s/sdc-0002.zip 1311 ** Volume 2 by SDC /disks/1996/s/sdc-0003.zip 1261 **+ Volume 3 by SDC /disks/1996/s/sdc-0004.zip 1210 **+ Volume 4 by SDC /disks/1996/s/secworld.zip 363 **+ Secret Worlds by Resound /disks/1996/s/spm-0296.zip 1363 * Spasm 02/1996 by Spasm /disks/1996/s/submerge.zip 220 *** [1/3] Submerged by Sublevel 3 /disks/1996/s/submrg01.zip 1350 *** [2/3] Submerged by Sublevel 3 /disks/1996/s/submrg02.zip 1399 *** [3/3] Submerged by Sublevel 3 /disks/1996/s/svdsk1.zip 460 ***+ Dimensional Voyages by Streamline | Vision /disks/1996/s/sxn-amd.zip 28 ** Adlib Musicdisk by Sanxion /disks/1996/s/synmus1a.zip 1934 **+ [1/2] Syndicate Net Musicdisk #1 | by Syndicate Net /disks/1996/s/synmus1b.zip 1815 **+ [2/2] Syndicate Net Musicdisk #1 | by Syndicate Net /disks/1996/t/theland.zip 886 **+ The Land by Lord Blanka of | Terraformer /disks/1996/t/tr-burn.zip 2038 *** Burning by Tracktor /disks/1996/t/tr-subl1.zip 1462 *** [1/2] Sublevel by Tracktor /disks/1996/t/tr-subl2.zip 1136 *** [2/2] Sublevel by Tracktor /disks/1996/t/tranrave.zip 1495 ** Tranceraver by Datrix Productions /disks/1996/t/tripto1a.zip 1425 ***+ [1/2] Tripout Volume 1 by Trip /disks/1996/t/tripto1b.zip 1450 ***+ [2/2] Tripout Volume 1 by Trip /disks/1996/t/trx0496a.zip 1194 **+ [1/2] 04/1996 Pack by Traxx /disks/1996/t/trx0496b.zip 1227 **+ [2/2] 04/1996 Pack by Traxx /disks/1996/t/trxbi01a.zip 974 **+ [1/2] Biosphere - Issue 1 by Traxx /disks/1996/t/trxbi01b.zip 834 **+ [2/2] Biosphere - Issue 1 by Traxx /disks/1996/t/trxds001.zip 1113 ** Deranged Songs - Volume 1 by Traxx /disks/1996/t/trxds02a.zip 1077 * [1/2] Deranged Songs - Volume 2 by | Traxx /disks/1996/t/trxds02b.zip 1253 * [2/2] Deranged Songs - Volume 2 by | Traxx /disks/1996/u/u-flo.zip 743 *** Flo by Ultrabeat /disks/1996/u/u-lucid1.zip 1164 *** Lucid by Ultrabeat /disks/1996/u/unify2.zip 1011 ***+ Unification 2 by Aim Higher /disks/1996/v/vsldj2-1.zip 1394 *** [1/5] A DJ's Dream 2 by VSL /disks/1996/v/vsldj2-2.zip 1178 *** [2/5] A DJ's Dream 2 by VSL /disks/1996/v/vsldj2-3.zip 977 *** [3/5] A DJ's Dream 2 by VSL /disks/1996/v/vsldj2-4.zip 1168 *** [4/5] A DJ's Dream 2 by VSL /disks/1996/v/vsldj2-5.zip 942 *** [5/5] A DJ's Dream 2 by VSL /disks/1996/w/wr-dipth.zip 579 **+ Diptheria by Wraith /disks/1996/z/zinc-gtf.zip 838 ** Groovy Time Fabric by Zinc /programs/compress/mmcmp133.zip 44 Music File Compressor v1.33 by | Zirconia : compress/decompress | songs, TSR decompresses | transparently /programs/players/cpawe17c.zip 6 Cubic AWE Player Wavetable Driver | v1.7c /programs/players/cpgp17b.zip 3 Cubic GUS Player Driver v1.7b : | bugfixed version /samples/swjuno2a.zip 1367 [1/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2b.zip 1312 [2/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2c.zip 1381 [3/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2d.zip 1274 [4/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2e.zip 1036 [5/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2f.zip 1404 [6/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2g.zip 1315 [7/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2h.zip 1303 [8/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2i.zip 1399 [9/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2j.zip 1262 [10/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2k.zip 829 [11/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2l.zip 1387 [12/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2m.zip 630 [13/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/swjuno2n.zip 2488 [14/14] Roland Juno 106 Samples #2 | by Soundwave : WAV, 16-bit 44kh /samples/tr707.zip 439 Roland TR-707 Percussion Samples | by Tek : WAV - 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25 Aug 1996 by Hornet /demonews/demonews.129 63 DemoNews 129 - 08 Sep 1996 by Hornet /traxw/traxweek.069 30 TraxWeekly 069 - 22 Aug 1996 /traxw/traxweek.070 34 TraxWeekly 070 - 05 Sep 1996 =----------------------------------------------------------------------(mags)-= /pub/demos/mags Size Rated Description =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= /1993/mayhem.lzh 185 *** Mayhem #1 by Phantom, Toxic Zombies /1994/cnbugfix.zip 144 ***+ Contrast #1 Bugfix by Purple /1994/gd001.zip 336 ** Genetic Dreams #1 by Escape /1995/cntrs002.zip 1338 **** Contrast #2 by Purple /1995/gd002.zip 1361 *+ Genetic Dreams #2 by Escape /1995/gd004.zip 731 *** Genetic Dreams #4 by Escape /1995/hoaxmag6.zip 583 *** Hoax #6 by Epical /1995/ibytes02.zip 907 ** Infused Bytes #2 by Realm of Infusion /1995/inf_dsk7.zip 804 **** Daskmig #7 by INF /1995/yahoo04.zip 280 ** Yahoo #4: The Hangover Issue by @ /1995/yahoo05.zip 515 ** Yahoo #5: The Party Issue by @ /1996/autark1.zip 1409 **** Autark #1 by N-Factor /1996/fsn_spl3.zip 556 ***+ Splash #3 by Fascination /1996/fsn_spl4.zip 509 ***+ Splash #4 by Fascination /1996/imphob12.zip 1356 ****+ Imphobia #12 by Imphobia /1996/madpress.zip 10 + Madania Press #1 by ESG /1996/scenial2.zip 534 **** Scenial #2 The Injection by Beans, Pulse /1996/sp_mag1l.zip 513 **+ Soap #1 Lite by Soap /1996/sub0003.zip 165 **+ Sub-Kult #3 by Dr. Dyregod, Ko /programs/dmg103d.arj 187 Disk Magazine Generator v1.03d by Dark Fiber /programs/gde32esc.zip 52 Genetic Dreams Text Editor v3.2 by Escape /programs/gde40.zip 65 Genetic Dreams Text Editor v4.0 by Escape ==[Articles]=================================================================== =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= :: "Introduction" :: Snowman / Hornet - r3cgm@cdrom.com _____The End Of An Era Diablo (music archive maintainer) is leaving. With work and scholastic duties, he is no longer able to work on the ever-growing music archive. We are actively looking for a replacement. There are a few people in the scene that we've thought about asking, but we wanted to give everyone the news in case someone really qualified wanted to volunteer. Position recommendations (not necessarily requirements): background in Perl, familiarity with our archive, a firm understanding of the overwhelming and continuous work that must be done. :) Please contact us if you feel qualified and are interested. _____Massive Improvements in /pub/demos/music Over the past two weeks, I've fixed and cataloged every stray file that was in /pub/demos/music. That's right! Every single song, music disk, program, sample pack, etc. is now in the HA4 database just waiting to be searched. There are now 8145 cataloged files on our site (5480 in /music alone). Those numbers are about double what they were two weeks ago. This is a mixed blessing. Yes, the database is more complete. However, the allmusic.html file has grown to 2.2 megs (ouch!). Search time has gone up noticeably. I'm going to have to redesign a couple critical sections of the archiving software and make things easier for you guys to get to. Note that our /music files listings this week are a bit incomplete. Since I was cataloging old files while Diablo was cataloging new, I had a difficult time separating the two when it came time to print this issue. This should never happen again. _____The Good, tHe bAd, a/\/> +)-(<- *%_a49!& As I was fixing up descriptions in the /music tree, I came across a lot of things I wanted to mention to musicians before they upload to our site: 1. Pick a 2 or 3 character prefix for all of your releases. For me, it might be sno-lame.zip, sno-mann.zip, sno-bird.zip, etc. This guarantees that all of your releases will be kept in the same directory. 2. Try to avoid profanity. It doesn't really bother me anymore, but it can be embarrassing as you grow older in the scene. Imagine doing a search for Necros songs and seeing a tune he wrote in 1992 called "Fuckhead Assmuncher". That wouldn't seem very professional, would it? :) 3. Properly capitalized words rule! If you have numbers or whacky case changes in your handle or song title, chances are they won't get cataloged correctly (and won't show up when someone wants to search for your stuff). 4. Include a file_id.diz in each release. Make it 25 characters or less. Use no high-ascii characters. Be sure to say, at minimum "Song Title by Author". And don't assume that anyone knows who you are. For example, "Proud Mary Music Disk by Taco". Is "Taco" a group or an individual? How the heck do I know? The group/individual distinction is important to the database. 5. Only have 3 or 4 files in the .zip file: the file_id.diz, the song, maybe a group.nfo thing and maybe one other file. When you start getting past that, people have to delete a lot of crap when they listen to your songs. 6. Put your song title in the "song title" field within the song. This might sound obvious but you have no idea how many people don't do this. 7. If you get three consistent ratings of ** or less, maybe it's time for a break. Take a month off, read some TraxWeekly, talk to some people on IRC, get their feedback. Then give it another go. If you keep uploading poorly written songs, people will download them less and less. In the modern music scene, there is enough help out there to help you avoid a lot of newbie mistakes. 8. Don't upload more than one song per week, tops (unless you consistently get ***+ or higher). Imagine if I sent out 4 issues of DemoNews a week. At first you might think "cool, look at all those files and articles!" But after a while you wouldn't read them. They would sit in your inbox. Make each song a "production"... special and important, not just another line to stick in your "Songs I've Done" list. 9. Use small samples if possible. These files aren't being sent to everyone's door on CD. The public is downloading your songs with a 14.4 or 28.8 and crappy bandwidth to ftp.cdrom.com. 200-400k is a nice range for a song. 10. Have one song per zip file. 11. Music packs are ok. Music disks are cool. Distinction? An interface. 12. Tune your samples. 13. Stick to song formats that are playable in Cubic Player. 14. MOD files are generally outdated unless they entered a 4-channel compo. 15. Don't rip overused samples. 16. Music reviewers all have different tastes. This does not mean they are bias. A techno-lover reviewer will still give a high rating to a jazz song if done well. Remember this when you're trying to find "reasonable" excuses why you got a low rating. :) Give me 20 songs. Let me rate them with a blindfold on. Then let me see just the contents of the .zip files. I'll bet you I can can come within * on each file, just based on how it "looks". How you package your song is very revealing. It's obvious who actually cares about their songs and takes the time to make them a polished production. And remember, just because we keep all songs on our site does not mean we encourage poorly tracked songs to be uploaded. _____Assembly Pics Howler's got some Assembly '96 pics online... check 'em out at: http://www.pcuf.fi/~howler _____DemoNews Anniversary 24 Sep 1996 is the 4th anniversary of DemoNews. As we enter our fifth year, I promise to bring the /incoming directory back under control. _____Conclusion 3 out of every 5 files prefer the /music directory over all others COMBINED! =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= :: "Standards" :: GD / Hornet - gd@ftp.cdrom.com _____Introduction Recently, I took a rare trip through usenet. While sifting through the large volume of posts in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos newsgroup, I read one message that claimed, "Coders usually don't care about standards." Standards have as much importance to the demoscene as they do to new professional software packages. How so? Often, the effect of a standard isn't noticeable without some explanation. To present my case, I am going to refer to software user interfaces. _____User Interface - The Non-Scene Example A standardized user interface has many advantages. For a new software package, it encourages users to skip most or all of the "how to" which is often necessary, and overconsuming of time and energy. Skipping this step allows the user to get a jump start and find out what features they could benefit from in a particular software package. For our non-scene example, let's refer to word processors. To me, WordPerfect 5.1 for Dos has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever been forced to use. When I need to use a word processor, I prefer Microsoft Word. For the sake of argument, let's say that WordPerfect gets completely redesigned and has an interface similar to that of MS Word. I can load up this new WordPerfect and, hey! The same menu options! The same hotkeys! This is great. Let's see what else it has. However, if a user interface is something totally foreign, a user may struggle for hours just trying to learn how to open a file on their hard drive that they won't notice the new Advanced Grammar Correction System. By using a tried-and-true user interface, one barrier between the user and the full potential of the software is eliminated. _____User Interface - The Scene Example I've done my best to keep up with the new issues of the Imphobia diskmag over the last couple years. Imphobia has high quality graphics, an impressive selection of music, lots of articles, and a simple yet effective interface. Recently, I downloaded a different diskmag that I hadn't heard of before. It had a hard-to-read font and a very awkward keyboard interface. I struggled with these two things so much that I almost completely failed to notice the nice background song. Besides that, I didn't even get through reading one complete article in the whole thing. And I bet I wasn't the only one. What's the result of this? I probably won't download the next issue of this diskmag (no names). First impressions are lasting impressions. _____Pass the PIIDI test Any new product which requires interaction is vulnerable to the "poor interface, I'm deleting it" (PIIDI) test. Products which fail this test limit their potential for success. In the case of the demoscene where productions are free anyway, everything is much more vulnerable to this test. The user tries it, doesn't like it, deletes it, and has lost only their time investment. Diskmags, tracker programs, graphics editors, and simple text editors are all subject to this test. But many programmers and designers might neglect this consideration. If one wants to gain acceptance of a certain group of individuals, one needs to appeal to the group's desires. Computer users don't want to struggle with confusing keys to gain a minimal advantage over their previous software. They want to dive right in and spend their time learning how to take advantage of "the good stuff." _____Conclusion In some cases, design and originality must be sacrificed in the name of using an accepted standard. Providing the user with familiarity is one way to give a product a better chance. To be truly successful, one must make the desires of the audience top priority, even if this means making alterations to the desires of the creators. =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= :: "Text Mode Demo Competition (TMDC)" :: Sol / DEE - jari.komppa@pcb.compart.fi _____Introduction One day last summer I and The Joker/Crusaders got an idea. We both like textmode demos, and while they seem to be increasing, we need something to promote them. We'd like to see textmode demos in at least good position as 4k intros are today - ie. competitions in all major parties etc. Only way to make this happen is to get people to make some _good_ textmode demos. _____Why should I consider this? Textmode is not just for newbies who haven't gotten into 13h yet. You can do everything in textmode that you can do in other modes; the resolution is worse, but that means it doesn't require as much processing power. Although you may not change palette in this competition, you still can have easily over 500 colors on screen at one time, by using back- and foreground colors. Please note that this is not a joke competition. While most of the textmode demos have been just curiosities or simply crap, you can do good things in it. We have already heard that someone is making a realtime raytracing demo for this competition. That is completely possible due to the low resolution and high processing power. _____When? The deadline (due to numerous requests) has moved to 11.11.96. This doesn't mean that you should hold on to your productions to the last day; please send them AS SOON AS POSSIBLE to make sure we get them. Results should be available before the end of November. _____Where? The competition is held in the Internet, but you don't have to have internet access to contribute a demo. You may send your contributions to: email: joker@crusaders.no or jari.komppa@pcb.compart.fi irc/dcc: _TJ_ (#CODERS) bbs: TRK +358-0-874-2789 28.8k (Dubius/DEE/Hysteria HQ) snail: Sol/DEE The Joker Laurintie 116 Stationsveien 56 Vantaa 01400 2010 STROMMEN Finland,Europe Norway, Europe Please include Self Addressed Envelope and International Reply Coupons if you want to have your disk(s) back. _____Basic Rules? Please get the complete rules before contributing a demo. - The organizers reserve the right to disqualify any demo, and the right to change the rules at any time. - The demos must be previosly unpublished. - Maximum file size is 1447424 bytes in a ZIP file, and 10 megs uncompressed. If you use DOS4GW, you don't need to include it in the ZIP. - Maximum demo length (in time) is not limited, but you should remember that too long demos are boring. - The complete demo must run in some textmode. Valid textmode screen modes are: 40x12, 40x14, 40x21, 40x25, 40x27, 40x43, 40x50, 80x12, 80x14, 80x21, 80x25, 80x27, 80x43, 80x50. If you want to use nonstandard text modes with these resolutions (for instance Liket's 60hz or 50hz modes) please make them optional. - Font and palette changes are not allowed; neither are other hardware tricks like splitscreen or startaddress. Light backgrounds may be enabled. - User must be able to quit the demo at any moment by pressing ESC. - Sound support: At least GUS (either native, MEGAEM (midi) or (IW/MAX)SBOS (SB/adlib)). - The demo must run on Pentium 120 with 8 megs of RAM under either QEMM, EMM386, HIMEM or plain boot. _____Prizes? (Prizes may change; follow the infofiles). 1st place - A.C.E Demos collection CD - 386dx25 w/4MB RAM, 40MB HDD, VGA card. (doesn't include keyboard or monitor, tho..) 2nd place - Imphobia 'Dreams' demo-CD - same kind of 386dx25 as above 3rd place - A.C.E Demos collection CD 4th place - Imphobia 'Dreams' demo-CD 5th place - A.C.E Demos collection CD A.C.E demos collection CDs were donated by A.C.E BBS Imphobia Dreams CDs were donated by Imphobia Assembly.org might give some prizes but this discussion is still open. Other donations welcome! _____Resources? Sol/DEE has released a textmode FLI/FLC player (with complete Watcom C32 source). It can currently be found (at least) from: ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/incoming/code/txtfli.zip. It should be enough to show that you can do anything in textmode. The Joker(TJ)/Crusaders has released full code to his textmode demo that won the Distortion'96, and the demo consists of 3d-vectors, texture-mapping, gouraud shading, zoom/rotate, good music and plasma-routines. It's coded in pascal/asm. Get if from: ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/incoming/code/ringnes.arj _____Other? If you have any questions, send them to either joker@crusaders.no or jari.komppa@pcb.compart.fi, or use the other contribution addresses mentioned above. Sol/DEE also reads GSN, DGI and comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos. New infofiles (with complete rules etc) will be posted to c.s.i.p.demos and we will release an invitation intro later with 'final' infofile. Infofile version 0.9 (with slightly old info) can be found withing txtfli.zip (see resources, above). =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= :: "Outdated Code, Modern Hardware" :: Unreal / Pulse - podgorsk@alpha.ok.ae.wroc.pl Some days ago I and 2418 other subscribers received the 127th issue of Demonews. I thought this particular issue was pretty boring (or rather of no interest for me this time), but I managed to get myself reading the "Jim vs. Jim" article. Usually I'd comment about this in Bad News, Imphobia, or Scenial, of which I am editor/writer, but I thought this time the thing could get outdated too quickly. So, I'd like to comment on a few things here in DemoNews. One thing is the really hot subject among coders nowadays: "Will new gfx cards' features replace today's coders work?" The "work" here is meant that done by polyfillers, for example. Representing the opinion that it WILL replace coders is well-known coder (anyone here never seen Imphobia?) Wizard / Imphobia. He claims that there's no sense to put much brainwork into whole 3D stuff, because soon it will be replaced by the flash-speed features of new gfx cards, where things like z-buffer, gouraud, phong and probably few more will be a standard. The person that thinks about it in different way is Tremor, coder of Dubius & Dee, whose 3d system is very impressive. In the not-yet-published interview for Bad News, Tremor says: T: As far as I know those gfx cards will replace some polyfillers... there's much more to do in good vector engines than just fillers. All the 3d-math, data structuring, shadow-engines, reflection effects + all the 3d-effects etc. and much more will stay. So there's as much sense in developing engines as there has been till this day. I think it shows more truth than other comments about it - technically, no card can absolutely replace coders' 3D work. There are always N ways to do some stuff. Today's fillers feature things like: gouraud, texturing, phong (few _real_ phong, though), bump, z-buffer, plus some more _plus_ all possible and reasonable combinations of those. Who knows who'll invent something new soon? There are other aspects of this--surely, we'll see much, much more 3d stuff because that is what many consider magic. 3D-routines (concerning things like fillers and data transfer) will become a STANDARD function of your video-card! but more on that a bit later. Another thing - Trixter and Rimbo look at 3D-accelerators just like they were only the future AND they even forgot (IMHO) what it was they were talking about: Graphics-ACCELERATOR cards. [In fact, J&J were talking about hardware advancements in general, they just used Accelerator cards as one example. -Ed.] Accelerator cards will speed things up, but you won't be forced to abandon your fingerwork (you will always be able to do gfx stuff on your own). Surely things like phong and z-buffering will be done faster with the new cards, but code optimization and technique are still the most important things in demos. YES. Demos. First of all, the introduction says: "or will doing that end the art of using programming tricks?". They consider doing tricks an art. Tricks are nice, but they're a TOOL. Of course, there are a number of competitions like 8086 and Imphobia Coding Compo that are trick-showoff competitions, but the main idea of demos is ART. The fillers and 3D stuff will get more popular, as I said before, by using the video-cards of tomorrow. This will somewhat reduce need for present-day coders (who must usually do things by hand and have to know HOW things work). These coders will be replaced by people who might not be as technically adept but who have more of a flare for design or REAL art! Imagine if someone could invent a brain-picture-to-paper-dumper, something that would dump what you imagine in your head onto paper. Who knows who'd be better - guys like Dali, Shyshkin, Rembrandt OR an unknown guy with great imagination but no drawing skills? It's the same with demos - there are surely guys with fantastic ideas, but lack of knowledge restrains them from doing really great stuff. Now, about the so-called end of "today's" scene. They seem to say that the introduction of new cards and hardware will destroy demos as they are today. It will be the end. Oh really? Just think about all those C-64 guys compared to PC dudes - the Commodore 64 had very little memory and a simple music processor. On the modern PC, we now have (by standard) 8 megs RAM, special music soundcards, gfx cards able to display up to 16 million colors, etc. What do those C64 veterans think? Some of them say it "sucks", but a lot of them just moved on to the PC or Amiga scene. Yes, people cry that "there are no more demos like on the good ole' C64," but everyone admits that what we can do now is far better. The solution might be to realize how to use available resources wisely, and it was a much more life-or-death question to optimize things on the C64 than on a PC. Nowadays we just say "buy a better PC". It's kind of a sign of the times - the better computer you have, the less you have to optimize. What have technological advances brought us? Take "Control" by Coma, a fantastic original video demo, until yesterday possible only on videotapes. Take "Contrast" by Oxygene, where the winners of the 2nd prize in the AMIGA contest at THE PARTY 1995 kick ass so hard. Many say the demo is slow, but hey--only half a year after The Party 5 they release a visually FANTASTIC PC production. The reason they can do that so fast (though I'm not of course sure that they were not working on PC before), is that they (Oxbab?) DON'T have to care about speed as much as they'd have to some time ago. Wanna see a good show? Buy a pentium; that's life. "Buy a pentium?" Interesting, eh? I could buy a 386 processor with mainboard for 0.4$ in many stores in Poland, which is half of the price of hamburger. I can buy a 486 cheaply, and I'm talking about POLAND! What is the next important fact is that when one buys a Pentium which he considers fast, one wants to see powerful things. Show me a non-scene man that would say, "Ah ok, no prob" when he asks "why are all those demos here you show me so poor, I've seen it in standard presentation in TP3 in 198x year" being told "Because people care that even XT owners have their fun." That's just life, and do you really want to stop people from doing things for hi-tech equipment, because YOUR vision of the scene is, in your opinion, going to die? They won't care, especially if the vision they see is far more beautiful, with "power for the masses". The future is that they'll be able to use today's tough utilities more easily to produce things much closer to their visions than they could ever do before. I said so many things about the benefits of new hardware, but I know there are of course some things that can be called drawbacks, too. As I said a few times before, coding either will not be so absolutely elite, or the I-coded-it-from-scratch coders will become really famous living legends. Probably some average math-heads with no sense of style will be forced by reality to stop acting like gods. Another thing is that with massive size increases in media transfer products, and with being able to replace disk drives and/or HDD / CD, we can expect that everyone will do animation in 3DS (for example) real or imaginary and use it in demos. Let's think, when will we see the first scene demo on CD? Not soon? I would not bet. The whole scene will probably get bigger, too, and there are many, many people who'd like to see it small, elite (in the positive sense) and cameral like it was 1992, for example. But we, the human beings, always were and most probably always will be afraid of change. Those are my opinions. If anyone would like to know, I'm more or less involved with the inter-machine scene for 7 or more years now, plus a computer user for 12 years now, and I surely can remember the times of the Atari 800XL, C64, A500, 286, because I had all of those computers. Regards. =-----------------------------------------------------------------------------= :: "Coven 1996 Information" :: Red Haze - redhaze@student.adelaide.edu.au Coven 96 is a demo party being held in Adelaide, South Australia, from Monday September 30th to Wednesday October 2nd. That's right, its less than two weeks from now! It will be 55+ hours of demo viewing, module playing, network game playing, and competitions. If you live in Australia and go to university or school, Coven will be during your next holidays, unless you happen to live in Tasmania, and I'm unsure of the Queensland uni term dates. If you work, then get some time off and come too! :) If you can make it, we'd love you to come along and join the party. (oh yeah, the party has nothing to do with witches except the name.) Last year, Coven 95 was pretty good, with an attendance of 50 people from the little ol' city of adelaide. If you came along last year and you're reading this, make sure you get along to Coven 96! Ditto if you didn't! If you went to OZ'96 in January, expect Coven 96 to be better! :P If you live in Melbourne, contact Black Artist and come along with him. (his contact details are in the info file that will be on ftp.cdrom.com in the Coven 96 directory in /pub/demos/incoming, presumably!) We're expecting 100-150 people (local and interstate) this year, and there are lots more competitions than last year. There will be a digital projector for the whole 3 days, hopefully a taste of the Amiga scene and Quake/network game compos, and in general HEAPS of fun! Many thanks go to our current sponsors: INGA games BBS +61-8-8341-6660, Radio Rentals and Leedall Presentation Systems. 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